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Adding New words

Aaron Dolman   September 6th, 2011 10:23p.m.

Hey guys

I have had this issue for a while now and have been playing around to try and sole it, but basically i have a review list of 4000+ words due to being away all summer. But when i try and whack off a load of reviews it seems to keep adding new words and therefore the reviews don't seem to go down as fast as i'd like.

I have played with all the setting but i'm wondering if this is maybe a bug? Or is there some other setting I am missing somewhere?

Thanks

Mandarinboy   September 7th, 2011 1:23a.m.

I guess that you have set adding to "manual Add only". If so there is no more new adding. However. since you have a large review list there are probably some words/readings etc that have not yet been presented to you yet, they will keep on popping up until they are all presented. I am often having more than 4000+ reviews and it takes a few days to work my way down to 0. During those days there will be come a few words that are presented a s new but in fact where added before the queue where build up. You can use the save me function but I think that it also will push what ever new words you have in the queue in to the future as well so you still will have those to come. The only solution I have found is to always use manual add only and handle adding my self so I get just as many as i like. I do that and it works perfectly for me. Yesterday I where finally down to 0 again:-)

Aaron Dolman   September 7th, 2011 3:22a.m.

Thanks man, thats helpful, i kinda figured it out that it might have been like that, but its good to know. I hope to have this review list down by the end of the day, just gotta keep cracking on.

Aaron Dolman   September 7th, 2011 8:43a.m.

One more question on these reviews.

Is there anyway that you know that I can ban a whole list from my studies rather than a word at a time.

I added loads of words last semester that were just needed then for specific classes but now i dont want to study them and just have default textbooks.

Thanks again

Byzanti   September 7th, 2011 9:23a.m.

If you remove the list from the study page that should do it. Words will be deleted unless they're in another list.

nick   September 7th, 2011 10:16a.m.

Right, and the progress isn't removed from those words, in case you add them again later. They're just deactivated if you remove all the lists they were in.

Antimacassar   September 7th, 2011 11:52a.m.

Is there a way to ban a list, but just for the words that you havent learnt yet, regardless of whether the ones you have learned have been learned in another list or not.

nick   September 7th, 2011 4:47p.m.

Antimacassar, I'm not sure I follow--can you describe your use case in a little more detail? In particular, are you trying to target words that have been added to My Words but you haven't learned well yet, or words that aren't in My Words yet? And what do you hope to achieve with it?

Aaron Dolman   September 7th, 2011 8:30p.m.

Antimacassar - I think that is the same thing I want too :-s

Basically I made a load of lists last semester which were specific to certain classes and they were great at the time but now i dont have those classes the words i dont need and will never use again.

What I think happened is the words from the lists were added to my words but i never actually learned them. they now come up as new words even though i have deleted the list they were in but the details say they are from that list that i deleted. but if possible I just want to totally get rid of the list, even if I have learned the character/word.

I think its quite confusing to explain and understand but I think like you said above Nick its words that have been added to My Words but haven't learned yet. If they are not in My Words yet deleting the list just gets rid of them i think :-S

Hope that helps my situation a little better - its probably my screwing about that caused it though because Skritter probably isn't meant for the way i used it last semester lol :-)

Thanks for all the help guys

Antimacassar   September 7th, 2011 11:07p.m.

Morning! If I read it correctly, if i delete a list and it contains words that I have learned but those words arent contained on other lists then they will be deleted/banned, but if they are on other lists they wont.

If that's right then I mean that I don't want to delete any of the words that I have learned. I just dont want to continue studying the list and learning new words from it.

Roland   September 8th, 2011 2:20a.m.

Antimacassar, what's about just stopping "add from this list", then no more new ones would come from that list except those, which have been already added to My words. Isn't that, what you want?

Antimacassar   September 8th, 2011 2:27a.m.

Roland: Yep, that's what i've done, but I hate it sitting there saying finish me :P!

Aaron Dolman   September 8th, 2011 2:41a.m.

just delete the list and then it will go.

my problem is i deleted the list but there are lots of words that seem to have been added to my words but i never actually learned them and now with 3000plus reviews it is bringing these new ones in which i dont want. what i was hoping was by deleting the list it would take them away too, but maybe the only way to get rid of them is by going into my words and doing them all individually.

Byzanti   September 8th, 2011 4:59a.m.

There are two ways words get removed.

The first is when you're practicing by banning an item. Or when you'r editing a list, and select ban from the drop down menu at the top.

The second way is by removing a list from the study page. If you do this, the list and the items do not get banned, rather they get removed from practice (unless the words are also present in another list). So do this if you want to remove a whole list do this.

If you want to stop adding future words, you just have to stop the list... It wont say finished, but there's nothing that can be done about that I'm afraid :p.

At least that's how it's supposed to work at the moment, although I don't understand what's happening in your case Aaron...

Antimacassar   September 8th, 2011 5:17a.m.

"The second way is by removing a list from the study page. If you do this, the list and the items do not get banned, rather they get removed from practice (unless the words are also present in another list). So do this if you want to remove a whole list do this. "

what's the difference between removed from practice and banned? (referring to words that arent contained on another list but have been learnt on the list i want to remove)

Byzanti   September 8th, 2011 6:18a.m.

If they're removed from practice, the way to get them back into practice is by restarting the list. Nick has been saying recently that progress data has been saved on them, but they would still have to be added one by one.

If words are banned then you can access them on a sub page in My Words, and can unban them at which point they will immediately enter practice again, without having to add them one by one. Again, progress is saved.

scott   September 8th, 2011 10:39a.m.

Just to clarify, you study the words in the lists you are studying. If you stop studying a list, you also stop studying (remove from study) those words that are in that list, except for those words you're also studying in other lists. But you can always add them back by adding them again from that list or another list.

Banning stops the word from being studied forever, basically. The word can be in the lists that you're studying but it still won't show up. And it prevents the word from being added.

So removing a word (by removing its lists) just stops it from being studied until you add it again. Banning prevents it from being added again (unless you unban it).

@Antimassacar: Roland's suggestion is probably the best option for you. Another possibility if you really want it to show up as finished would be to skip (in the list's study settings) the sections you haven't worked on at all yet, then finish the section you're currently on. It adds a few more but it gets it to finished. If you control the list you could delete the sections and words you haven't added yet then finish it, also.

scott   September 8th, 2011 3:40p.m.

Also Aaron, did you remove those lists from study, or did you actually delete them? Currently there's a bug where deleting the list doesn't actually remove the words from study. To remove the list and its words from your studies, you need to do that from the study page here:

http://www.skritter.com/study

I see there are a good number of lists you deleted; for those you don't want to study anymore you'll need to restore those lists, study them, and then remove them. If there are a lot of them I can help you with that since it was caused by a bug.

Aaron Dolman   September 9th, 2011 10:24a.m.

thanks Scott. I just deleted the lists. I'll have a look at it and restore the lists, study them and then remove them and see if that works.

Thanks for your help - you guys are awesome

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